Well decided to take the plunge and test installing on two systems simultaneously.
In both cases I tried all three currently available betas that are on msdn (beta1, beta2(5270), febctp(5308). The two systems are a toshiba m200 tablet (upgraded to 1g memory, faster drive, intel 2200g wireless). The other system started as an HP m7170n (intel 830 processor, 3g memory, ATI x1300 video card). Both systems were able to handle the first two beta products successfully.
Both systems had critical problems with 5308. For all of the tests the hard drives were formatted clean and then loading the target beta. No apps were installed.
The tablet pc failed by not allowing access to the administrator account, thus I could not configure wireless networking
The hp system failed by hanging in a loop during load with no messages.
As a general observation user installation feedback messages are abominable, you need to put out more information as to what is happening at what stages so we don't get the wrong impression that it has failed.
al

vista installation issues (5308)
Can't think off the top of my head, but 5308 seems to be really problematic for loads of people. Some people can't get past the CD-Key bit, some people can't get things to work, I've found more bugs in this build than the first 5112!
I guess, if you have to... try reburning the download image on a slow setting, or if the worst comes to worst, go back to 5270 because they are still accepting bugs for that. However, you could try on of the other versions available - Vista Business, or Longhorn Server perhaps?
-- Zack Whittaker Microsoft Beta (Windows Server R2 Beta Mentor) » ZackNET Enterprises: www.zacknet.co.uk » MSBlog on ResDev: http://msblog.resdev.net » ZackNET Forum: www.zacknet.co.uk/forum » VistaBase: www.zacknet.co.uk/vistabase » This mailing is provided "as is" with no warranties, and confers no rights. All opinions expressed are those of myself unless stated so, and not of my employer, best friend, mother or cat. Let's be clear on that one!
--- Original message follows --- "Al Edlund" wrote in message
Well decided to take the plunge and test installing on two systems simultaneously.
In both cases I tried all three currently available betas that are on msdn (beta1, beta2(5270), febctp(5308). The two systems are a toshiba m200 tablet (upgraded to 1g memory, faster drive, intel 2200g wireless). The other system started as an HP m7170n (intel 830 processor, 3g memory, ATI x1300 video card). Both systems were able to handle the first two beta products successfully.
Both systems had critical problems with 5308. For all of the tests the hard drives were formatted clean and then loading the target beta. No apps were installed.
The tablet pc failed by not allowing access to the administrator account, thus I could not configure wireless networking
The hp system failed by hanging in a loop during load with no messages.
As a general observation user installation feedback messages are abominable, you need to put out more information as to what is happening at what stages so we don't get the wrong impression that it has failed.
al
You are likely get the same issues with Longhorn Server or another SKU, remember, all are based on the same SKU. I noticed that in Ultimate Edition my sound card was detected and installed, in Home Premium and Home Basic, its not. -- -- Andre Windows Connect | http://www.windowsconnected.com Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
"Zack Whittaker (R2 Mentor)" wrote in message
Can't think off the top of my head, but 5308 seems to be really problematic for loads of people. Some people can't get past the CD-Key bit, some people can't get things to work, I've found more bugs in this build than the first 5112!
I guess, if you have to... try reburning the download image on a slow setting, or if the worst comes to worst, go back to 5270 because they are still accepting bugs for that. However, you could try on of the other versions available - Vista Business, or Longhorn Server perhaps?
-- Zack Whittaker Microsoft Beta (Windows Server R2 Beta Mentor) » ZackNET Enterprises: www.zacknet.co.uk » MSBlog on ResDev: http://msblog.resdev.net » ZackNET Forum: www.zacknet.co.uk/forum » VistaBase: www.zacknet.co.uk/vistabase » This mailing is provided "as is" with no warranties, and confers no rights. All opinions expressed are those of myself unless stated so, and not of my employer, best friend, mother or cat. Let's be clear on that one!
--- Original message follows --- "Al Edlund" wrote in message Well decided to take the plunge and test installing on two systems simultaneously.
In both cases I tried all three currently available betas that are on msdn (beta1, beta2(5270), febctp(5308). The two systems are a toshiba m200 tablet (upgraded to 1g memory, faster drive, intel 2200g wireless). The other system started as an HP m7170n (intel 830 processor, 3g memory, ATI x1300 video card). Both systems were able to handle the first two beta products successfully.
Both systems had critical problems with 5308. For all of the tests the hard drives were formatted clean and then loading the target beta. No apps were installed.
The tablet pc failed by not allowing access to the administrator account, thus I could not configure wireless networking
The hp system failed by hanging in a loop during load with no messages.
As a general observation user installation feedback messages are abominable, you need to put out more information as to what is happening at what stages so we don't get the wrong impression that it has failed.
al
Ahh... you see, with 5270, I tried Vista and Glass didn't work. I then tried Longhorn Server (I'm a server sorta guy to be honest!) and whaddya know, Glass works! Did absolutely nothing to the hardware, BIOS or anything, it just worked by default.
It even works now on Vista client, so I'm all round uber-happy :o) Yay!
-- Zack Whittaker Microsoft Beta (Windows Server R2 Beta Mentor) » ZackNET Enterprises: www.zacknet.co.uk » MSBlog on ResDev: http://msblog.resdev.net » ZackNET Forum: www.zacknet.co.uk/forum » VistaBase: www.zacknet.co.uk/vistabase » This mailing is provided "as is" with no warranties, and confers no rights. All opinions expressed are those of myself unless stated so, and not of my employer, best friend, mother or cat. Let's be clear on that one!
--- Original message follows --- "Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" wrote in message
You are likely get the same issues with Longhorn Server or another SKU, remember, all are based on the same SKU. I noticed that in Ultimate Edition my sound card was detected and installed, in Home Premium and Home Basic, its not. -- -- Andre Windows Connect | http://www.windowsconnected.com Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
"Zack Whittaker (R2 Mentor)" wrote in message Can't think off the top of my head, but 5308 seems to be really problematic for loads of people. Some people can't get past the CD-Key bit, some people can't get things to work, I've found more bugs in this build than the first 5112!
I guess, if you have to... try reburning the download image on a slow setting, or if the worst comes to worst, go back to 5270 because they are still accepting bugs for that. However, you could try on of the other versions available - Vista Business, or Longhorn Server perhaps?
-- Zack Whittaker Microsoft Beta (Windows Server R2 Beta Mentor) » ZackNET Enterprises: www.zacknet.co.uk » MSBlog on ResDev: http://msblog.resdev.net » ZackNET Forum: www.zacknet.co.uk/forum » VistaBase: www.zacknet.co.uk/vistabase » This mailing is provided "as is" with no warranties, and confers no rights. All opinions expressed are those of myself unless stated so, and not of my employer, best friend, mother or cat. Let's be clear on that one!
--- Original message follows --- "Al Edlund" wrote in message Well decided to take the plunge and test installing on two systems simultaneously.
In both cases I tried all three currently available betas that are on msdn (beta1, beta2(5270), febctp(5308). The two systems are a toshiba m200 tablet (upgraded to 1g memory, faster drive, intel 2200g wireless). The other system started as an HP m7170n (intel 830 processor, 3g memory, ATI x1300 video card). Both systems were able to handle the first two beta products successfully.
Both systems had critical problems with 5308. For all of the tests the hard drives were formatted clean and then loading the target beta. No apps were installed.
The tablet pc failed by not allowing access to the administrator account, thus I could not configure wireless networking
The hp system failed by hanging in a loop during load with no messages.
As a general observation user installation feedback messages are abominable, you need to put out more information as to what is happening at what stages so we don't get the wrong impression that it has failed.
al
Have you promoted LH Server 5308 as a Domain Controller and and connect Vista 5308 (Domain Join)? I am having issues, its giving me some stinking error about WINs service, DNS is working just fine, I let it set that up automatically. User account has already been setup in AD. -- Andre Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta FAQ for MS AntiSpy http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm
"Zack Whittaker (R2 Mentor)" wrote in message
Ahh... you see, with 5270, I tried Vista and Glass didn't work. I then tried Longhorn Server (I'm a server sorta guy to be honest!) and whaddya know, Glass works! Did absolutely nothing to the hardware, BIOS or anything, it just worked by default.
It even works now on Vista client, so I'm all round uber-happy :o) Yay!
-- Zack Whittaker Microsoft Beta (Windows Server R2 Beta Mentor) » ZackNET Enterprises: www.zacknet.co.uk » MSBlog on ResDev: http://msblog.resdev.net » ZackNET Forum: www.zacknet.co.uk/forum » VistaBase: www.zacknet.co.uk/vistabase » This mailing is provided "as is" with no warranties, and confers no rights. All opinions expressed are those of myself unless stated so, and not of my employer, best friend, mother or cat. Let's be clear on that one!
--- Original message follows --- "Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" wrote in message You are likely get the same issues with Longhorn Server or another SKU, remember, all are based on the same SKU. I noticed that in Ultimate Edition my sound card was detected and installed, in Home Premium and Home Basic, its not. -- -- Andre Windows Connect | http://www.windowsconnected.com Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
"Zack Whittaker (R2 Mentor)" wrote in message Can't think off the top of my head, but 5308 seems to be really problematic for loads of people. Some people can't get past the CD-Key bit, some people can't get things to work, I've found more bugs in this build than the first 5112!
I guess, if you have to... try reburning the download image on a slow setting, or if the worst comes to worst, go back to 5270 because they are still accepting bugs for that. However, you could try on of the other versions available - Vista Business, or Longhorn Server perhaps?
-- Zack Whittaker Microsoft Beta (Windows Server R2 Beta Mentor) » ZackNET Enterprises: www.zacknet.co.uk » MSBlog on ResDev: http://msblog.resdev.net » ZackNET Forum: www.zacknet.co.uk/forum » VistaBase: www.zacknet.co.uk/vistabase » This mailing is provided "as is" with no warranties, and confers no rights. All opinions expressed are those of myself unless stated so, and not of my employer, best friend, mother or cat. Let's be clear on that one!
--- Original message follows --- "Al Edlund" wrote in message Well decided to take the plunge and test installing on two systems simultaneously.
In both cases I tried all three currently available betas that are on msdn (beta1, beta2(5270), febctp(5308). The two systems are a toshiba m200 tablet (upgraded to 1g memory, faster drive, intel 2200g wireless). The other system started as an HP m7170n (intel 830 processor, 3g memory, ATI x1300 video card). Both systems were able to handle the first two beta products successfully.
Both systems had critical problems with 5308. For all of the tests the hard drives were formatted clean and then loading the target beta. No apps were installed.
The tablet pc failed by not allowing access to the administrator account, thus I could not configure wireless networking
The hp system failed by hanging in a loop during load with no messages.
As a general observation user installation feedback messages are abominable, you need to put out more information as to what is happening at what stages so we don't get the wrong impression that it has failed.
al
I am also having problems getting 5308 to work on a tablet PC, this one is a Compaq tc4200.
My first attempt was to upgrade from XP Pro (Tablet edition) and was a total disaster. It would not boot at all, but hung after the intial splash screen.
I did a clean install, formatting the hard drive NTFS. Now it boots, and the most frequent symptom is to display the Taskbar and a few desktop icons then bluescreen with "Bugcheck 7e, parameters 0x80000003, 0x8150455a, 0x85610938, 0x85610634"
Next, I booted into Safe Mode, and using the HP Drivers CD, I installed all of the drivers (XP versions of course) for the devices that were not working. That bought me a few minutes running in normal mode, then (even if I do nothing on the machine) any or all of Windows Explorer, Host Services, or Task Scheduler quit working, and (sometimes) restart themselves. Finally, the BSOD appears.
Any help, hints, etc. will be welcome!
Walt
Windows Vista
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